I think you misunderstood my point. The point I was trying to make is that quoting a single or set of Bible verses without context, in response to anyone, will frame that person in the quoter’s opinion (not the Bible’s).

For example, instead of explaining MY opinion above, I could just quote Bible verses as a representation of my opinion (like James), but to the reader the argument would be clear: that “the Bible says this, not me” about you/your blog comment.

Here are two Biblical interpretations of you as a person that I could quote (both are entirely bullshit, as I don’t know you, it’s just an exercise):

Antonio, “Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.” (Romans 14:10-11) Are you not also guilty of violating “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.” (John 3:17) As well as failing to obey “Judge not, that ye be not judged” (Matthew 7:1) and “Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.” (1 Peter 3:9)?

Do you see how I’m making you look now? What I, me, myself, am saying ABOUT YOU through “the Bible”? It’s an inference to be sure, but I’m using Bible verses to say WHAT I WANT TO ABOUT YOU, as a Biblical commission. Now I could also say, consider this:

Antonio, “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.” (Galatians 5:22-23) which you’ve done “As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.” (James 2:26) and you’ve also completed the “these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” (1 Corinthians 13:13) which is apparent in your words and actions.

Do you see how I’m making you look now? What I, me, myself, am saying ABOUT YOU through “the Bible”? It’s an inference to be sure, but I’m using Bible verses to say WHAT I WANT TO ABOUT YOU, as a Biblical commission.
Get it?

Believe it or not, you summarized (in your last two comments) every point I’ve made concerning James’ posts/comments! I hope James reads these comments, as what you just said succinctly summarizes my personal objections to James’ statements more than I ever could/did. It’s pretty awesome.

In response to your continuous objection:
You think I should no longer comment on this blog due to the fact that I was told I would be ignored, which you stated is Biblical by quoting “Don’t give fools a foolish answer, or you will be just like them. But answer fools as they should be answered, or they will think they are really wise.” (Proverbs 26:4-5)[your citation]

So, why would I continue to comment when I was told I would be ignored on this blog?
I hope the answer is clear already. If not, would you no longer post on James’ public internet forum if I told you that I think you’re a British loyalist leftover from the 18th century set upon creating dissent that is opposed to the Bible? Shouldn’t you shut the fuck up, even though I’m a racist “American colonist” crying foul, since I already told you I and everyone else would be ignoring you? Doesn’t the Bible tell me to not respond to fools such as you?
(Again, example. I don’t know you.)

Some other questions for you to consider:
Am I a Christian? Or a Jew?
Do I believe the Bible is God’s word?
Do I believe Jesus was the Christ?
Do the answers to those questions change your Biblical interpretation of me?

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Benjamin on March 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm:
Am I doing it right? Does quoting a set of Bible verses rebuke you as “doing wrong” or being a “fool”?

No you are not doing it right, but you are almost there. And yes, quoting a set of Bible verses rebukes and corrects.

Yes, continuing to post my explicitly ignored comments to a person who told me I would be ignored is ridiculously silly!!!!!!!

Proverbs 26:7
A wise saying spoken by a fool
is as useless as the legs of a crippled person.

Being able to say wise things means nothing when the person is in the wrong. Yet, some people enjoy and take pleasure foolishly speaking wisdom.

Don’t worry this is not to rebuke, condemn, or commend you. This is just truth. Truth that applies regardless of who heeds it.

Proverbs 26:11
A fool who repeats his foolishness
is like a dog that goes back to what it has thrown up.

Benjamin on April 26, 2010 at 3:03 pm
James,

I have done some (admittedly while bored) research. I’m going to address your Bible verse quotes individually.

1) You say Exodus 22:21 says “Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner.” You use this to support your argument against the recent Arizona state law.

However, Exodus 22:21 actually states [your quoted translation] “Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.” This command specifically refers to those enslaved in Egypt. This partially quoted sentence in the Bible does not apply to America’s governmental law.
If you believe it does, then you must also believe that “If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed” (Exodus 22:2) and “Anyone who steals must certainly make restitution, but if they have nothing, they must be sold to pay for their theft.” (Exodus 22:3) and “If anyone borrows an animal from a neighbor and it is injured or dies while the owner is not present, restitution must be made.” (Exodus 22:14) and “If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife” (Exodus 22:16) and “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death” (Exodus 22:19).

All of the above Biblical references are NOT ILLEGAL under American federal law. How do you explain using one part of one sentence of the Old Testament of the Bible to justify opposition to Arizona’s governmental policy towards illegal immigrants in America? Also, what gives you the right/authority to impose Old Testament Christian morals on non-Christians and all Americans?

…………just for giggles, let’s say you don’t want to pay attention to what Jesus was calling attention to in your quoted verse. So, let’s look at the context in Luke 10.

Yes, reading your comments is incredible!!!!!

I love seeing the just for giggles. People trying to explain how others are using the Bible wrong, when Arizona is making racists laws that attack a group, which use to live there before they were murdered,pushed down south, made laws to keep them there – sound so so wise!!!!!

You started off good trying to have a reasonable conversation which turned into foolishness. I will join your foolishness, so let us keep the ball rolling.

You’re still lying. Are you aware of this? Perhaps you’re not aware of the falsehood of your statements? In your last comment, you claim that the current bill(s) in Arizona alter “the citizenship of those born in the U.S. from non-citizens”, which is completely and utterly false. It’s untrue. It doesn’t represent any fact. It’s fiction, that you’re selling as non-fiction. Why are you doing this?

U.S. citizenship cannot be altered by any law, federal or state. The 14th Amendment in the Constitution guarantees citizenship, without repeal. It cannot be repealed. It can never be repealed (unless we first repeal the entire federal government). The Constitution is the foundation for all U.S. legislation, all judiciary proceedings, all Presidential appointments. Why are telling people that one state’s legislature is overruling the federal U.S. Constitution? It’s not happening. It will never happen. No U.S. citizen, of any age, race, or creed will ever lose their citizenship, neither by federal nor especially state law. Why are you telling people this is happening in Arizona?

Fact: an Arizona “Senate Appropriation Committee” approved “a set of bills” by a margin of 8-5 and 7-6. This was a committee, of “appropriation” (finance, or “can we afford it?” only questions), which consisted of only 13 people. Votes of 8-5 and 7-6, do the math. Thirteen people whose job was to consider financial impact of these bills only. In specific Arizona budget context. Yet, you publicly argue this “is scary”. You publish the falsehood that “the citizenship of those born in the U.S. from non-citizens” would be altered. Not true. Not one single lawmaker in Arizona has even seen these bills, nor even further discussed them, not even close. Is this really “scary”? Should people reading this blog be afraid on these bills? Or are you just trying to falsely convince everyone that Arizona children born in the U.S. will lose their citizenship?

@Antonio

“Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.” (1 Peter 2:13-14)

Am I doing it right? Does quoting a set of Bible verses rebuke you as “doing wrong” or being a “fool”?

I’m just kidding, really. I don’t want to rebuke you or condemn you nor even commend you to anything, especially by me quoting a Bible verse. That would be ridiculously silly!!!

“The bills before the Senate Appropriations Committee would alter citizenship for children born in the United States to non-citizens, prevent undocumented children from attending school, prohibit illegal immigrants from driving or purchasing a vehicle and force hospitals to ask about citizenship before providing medical care.”

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/02/23/20110223arizona-immigration-bills-controversy.html#ixzz1EtuAPhmB

Proverbs 26:4-5
Don’t give fools a foolish answer, or you will be just like them. But answer fools as they should be answered, or they will think they are really wise.

Yes, you are the only one celebrating this. You are the only one celebrating the pettiness of your comments. Yes, thank God for permitting fools to keep commenting after they were told they would be ignored. How awesome is that?!?! This is amazingly good!

@James
Keep up the good work.

James 3:13-18
Are there those among you who are truly wise and understanding? Then they should show it by living right and doing good things with a gentleness that comes from wisdom.14 But if you are selfish and have bitter jealousy in your hearts, do not brag. Your bragging is a lie that hides the truth.15 That kind of “wisdom” does not come from God but from the world. It is not spiritual; it is from the devil.16 Where jealousy and selfishness are, there will be confusion and every kind of evil.17 But the wisdom that comes from God is first of all pure, then peaceful, gentle, and easy to please. This wisdom is always ready to help those who are troubled and to do good for others. It is always fair and honest.18 People who work for peace in a peaceful way plant a good crop of right-living.

Bravo Benjamin, Bravo.

Your last two comments on this story have absolutely nothing to do with the immigration law that was passed in Arizona last year, yet you posted them here like they do. Why are you trying to falsely and purposefully persuade people of racist fascism in Arizona when it doesn’t exist? Why? What the hell are you doing? You have written popularly published Christian books, so you have much influence of many people, but you are using it to convince anyone who reads this blog of complete and utter crap. What is your motivation? What is your goal? Why do you insist on spreading falsehood despite obvious factual (and now, historical) proof?

First story: A judge and congresswoman in Arizona, along with 18 others (apparently insignificant people? since they weren’t “an outspoken critic of the state’s tough immigration law”), were shot by a man who claimed he did so because of “a series of topics like the gold standard and mind control.” [citation: James' link to news story] James, why are you posting this as a comment on your “Arizona = Nazi Germany” story blog? Do you actually believe this news story has anything to do with SB1070? Why are you still trying, and why do you continue to try, to influence people to support antagonistic racism of Arizonians?

Second story: It was a high school literature class. ONE teacher in Tuscon decided to devote the entirety of the study of literature to Mexican-American students only, thereby eliminating all other cultures/ethnicities/races/citizens/peoples on purpose as “nearly all of those attending Curtis Acosta’s Latino literature class on a recent morning were Mexican-American.” [citation: James' link to the news story] Again, this has absolutely nothing to do with SB1070, Hitler, Nazis, Nazi Germany, The Third Reich, Stars of David, showing ‘papers’ to law enforcement, law enforcement discrimination, Samaritans, Jews, economic troubles leading to oppression/injustice, James’ seminary professorship, personal attacks/offense, etc. And yet, James you’re continuing your efforts to convince people, using your positional influence of those who read this blog and your books, to make an outrageous connection. You even have the audacity to argue said connection on Biblical and “true Christian” grounds! What are you doing? Why are you doing this?

It has been 10 months since James predicted the rise of racist Nazi Germany-style fascism in Arizona based on incorrect history and citing Bible partial-verse prophecy. But it has not happened!! How awesome is that?!?! This is amazingly good! Thank God for permitting misguided people to be proven wrong! God loves people!

Am I the only one who is celebrating this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/us/08ethnic.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB